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Reference ID Created Released Classification Origin
09OTTAWA434 2009-06-05 21:03 2011-08-30 01:44 UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Embassy Ottawa
DE RUEHOT #0434/01 1562103
O 052103Z JUN 09





E.O. 12958: N/A

1. (SBU) Summary. DHS Secretary Napolitano held productive
meetings in Ottawa on May 27 with PM Harper, National Security
Advisor Morin, Public Safety Minister Van Loan, and Citizenship
Minister Kenney, at which Canadian officials pledged cooperation on
border issues, especially in facing threats from terrorism and
crime, which affect both our countries. She heard concerns from
business leaders that U.S. border measures were hindering trade.
She signed the landmark “Shiprider” agreement — integrated maritime
law enforcement operations — during a stop to the Detroit/Windsor
border on May 26, and announced an agreement on a framework for the
movement of people and goods across the U.S. Canada border during
and following an emergency. Secretary Napolitano and Minister Van
Loan agreed to meet at least twice a year in the future. End

The Prime Minister

2. (SBU) During a May 27 visit to Ottawa, Secretary of Homeland
Security Janet Napolitano met with a range of high level Canadian
officials, accompanied by Charge d’Affaires Breese. The meeting
with Prime Minister Stephen Harper focused on the implementation of
the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI), Canadian concerns
about U.S. security measures at the border, and land preclearance.
PM Harper reiterated his statement from the joint press conference
with President Obama on February 19 that threats to the United
States and Canada are shared. However, he expressed concern about
U.S. statements regarding “parity” between the Mexican and Canadian
borders. He highlighted Canadian perceptions that the borders are
significantly different and insisted that they should not be treated
the same. The Prime Minister stated his overall security concerns
were similar to those of the United States, but underlined
particular concern about any emerging nexus between organized crime
and terrorism.

National Security Advisor

3. (SBU) In a separate meeting, National Security Advisor
Marie-Lucie Morin emphasized that the interagency group of Deputy
Ministers she leads is focusing on borders and all modes of entry
into Canada, not just the land border. She pointed out that
Canada’s air and sea border security directly impacts the U.S.
because of the shared land border. She expressed Canada’s interest
in undertaking joint threat assessments. She also expressed her
belief that intelligence sharing between our countries is “back on
track after some unfortunate cases;” CDA Breese commented that the
Embassy still sees significant problems. She confirmed that
Minister Van Loan has the broad policy lead for information sharing
issues on behalf of the Government of Canada, but that those issues
also involve Citizenship and Immigration Canada, Justice Canada,
Transport Canada, and the Department of Foreign Affairs and
International Trade. Ms. Morin pledged that Canada would like to
work with the United States on security cooperation with Mexico, and
expressed appreciation for the strong U.S.-Canada-Mexico
collaboration to address the recent H1N1 virus, underscoring the
value of having protocols in place to address similar situations.

4. (SBU) Ms. Morin commented that a secure, stable border is
important and that, among the serious threats we face, the economic
threat is high as well. Ms. Morin said she would lead a delegation
of senior officials to Washington in September; Secretary
Napolitano offered to have DHS officials (specifically DAS Silver)
QNapolitano offered to have DHS officials (specifically DAS Silver)
work with her staff and State Department officials on an exchange of
letters to set up an agenda for this visit. Ms. Morin asked that
DHS and her office work together to establish a set of priority
issues for discussion at the August 2009 North American Leaders
Summit (NALS). She emphasized that collaboration needs to focus on
concrete issues and deliver rapid results.

Public Safety Canada

5. (SBU) In a meeting on May 27 following the shared Ambassador
Bridge tour, signing of the Shiprider agreement (see para 14), and
joint press conference in Detroit the day before, Secretary
Napolitano met with Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan in Ottawa.
She assured Minister Van Loan of DHS’ readiness for the
implementation of WHTI. She and Van Loan agreed to advance
discussions at the senior officials’ level on developing a joint
threat assessment, potentially including the private sector in
particular on threats to critical infrastructure and consequence
management issues. Minister Van Loan strongly urged the reopening
of discussions on land preclearance, but Secretary Napolitano
cautioned that potential efficiencies were unclear and suggested
instead discussion on other outstanding preclearance-related issues,
including private aircraft, marine and rail, and cargo. Deputy
Minister Suzanne Hurtubise said she had recently completed

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consultations with other departments and that Canada would be
willing to discuss General Aviation/private aircraft preclearance.

6. (SBU) Minister Van Loan agreed to look into the issues on an
expedited basis raised by CDA Breese, notably the possible provision
by Canada of status under the air preclearance agreement to CBP
personnel working in Container Security Initiative Ports in Canada
and CBP officers conducting preclearance for ferries at Canadian
terminals. The Secretary and the Minister agreed to have CBP and
CBSA conduct a review of the trusted shipper programs — C-TPAT
(CBP) and PIP (Canada) — to see if they could be further
integrated. Minister Van Loan indicated his preference to pursue
with Canadian airlines obtaining “informed consent” from passengers
overflying the United States to provide their information to the
United States for Secure Flight. The Secretary suggested looking at
subsets of data on arriving passengers that we could share.
Minister Van Loan discussed collaborating on issues relating to
domestic radicalization and suggested Canadian Security Intelligence
Service (CSIS) should meet with DHS officials to discuss outreach
they have done to diverse populations in Canada. The Secretary and
the Minister agreed that the two departments should work together on
cybersecurity. They agreed to meet again in late October/November
2009 — and at least twice a year thereafter — and expressed the
hope of seeing substantial advancement of specific elements of the
joint agenda at that time.

7. (SBU) Following their meeting, the Secretary and the Minister
conducted a joint press conference at which they announced agreement
on a framework for the movement of people and goods across the
border during and following an emergency. They also released a
joint border statement, in which they outlined six shared goals that
they would work toward during their agree-upon twice-yearly
meetings. The goals included developing joint threat and risk
assessments, advancing initiatives to manage risk while facilitating
the movement of legitimate goods and people, sharing information to
prevent people or goods that threaten our safety from entering
either country or crossing the border, expanding integrated law
enforcement operations along the shared border and waterways, and
exploring models for joint or shared border facilities, equipment
and technology as well as cross-designation of personnel as

Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC)
——————————————— ——–

8. (SBU) In a separate meeting, Minister for Citizenship,
Immigration, and Multiculturalism Jason Kenney and the Secretary
discussed immigration, asylum and refugee programs and processes,
and ways to share additional information to prevent criminals and
terrorists from entering our immigration or refugee systems. (This
was the first time that a DHS Secretary had met with an immigration
minister.) Minister Kenney emphasized Canada’s desire to look
closely at visa screening and security in its immigration program.
He discussed challenges in Canada’s refugee and asylum system, in
particular high numbers of “inland refugee claims” (those made by
immigrants who travel to Canada by other means and then claim asylum
after arriving), stating that he was “very concerned about abuse in
this system.” He admitted that 55% of these inland refugee claims
are rejected, but because of appeal delays and applications for
Qare rejected, but because of appeal delays and applications for
humanitarian exceptions, many are not removed for many years.
Minister Kenney explained that CIC was preparing a package of
reforms to the system to address these delays and increase resources
for removals that would be put forward in the fall.

9. (SBU) Minister Kenney admitted that Canada was behind the
United States and the United Kingdom in its fingerprint program, and
said that CIC was looking to accelerate its implementation in Canada
ahead of the current 2013 target date. CDA Breese offered to host
the Minister at the U.S. Embassy’s Consular Section to view the visa
and fingerprint process at his convenience. Deputy Minister Fadden
raised concerns about the difficulties of sharing information,
including biometric information under the current MOUs between the
United States and Canada which predate both the creation of CIC and
DHS. The Secretary and the Minister agreed to put together an
appropriate group of officials to discuss the MOU and the legal and
policy impediments to sharing information for immigration and
security screening purposes on a more systematic basis, with a goal
of updating the MOU.

10. (SBU) Minister Kenney expressed interest in the U.S. Enhanced
System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) program for Visa Waiver
entrants. He admitted that Canada needs to do more in screening
visitors from Visa Waiver countries. The Secretary offered to host
CIC officials in Washington with the DHS ESTA team to brief them.
Minister Kenney also discussed differences in admissibility criteria
(in particular on national security issues), stating there have been

OTTAWA 00000434 003.2 OF 003

cases where the United States has admitted persons Canada has kept
out, and objecting that Canada is somehow “softer on immigration.”
(Comment: The reference was to British MP George Galloway, who was
denied entry to Canada because of his support for Hamas but was
admitted to the U.S. for a speaking tour. End Comment) The
Secretary and the Minister agreed to have a group of officials meet
to develop a matrix to compare and contrast the screening process
and admissibility criteria between the U.S. and Canada and report

11. (SBU) Minister Kenney expressed his strong desire to enhance
information sharing between Canada and the United States, and
emphasized that his government is ready to explore legislative
changes to make greater information sharing possible. CIC has asked
that DHS alert CIC when ICE is preparing significantly to ramp-up
interior immigration enforcement actions, as U.S. enforcement
activities impact Canada’s refugee claimant numbers. The Secretary
asked in return that CIC alert DHS to any anticipated changes in
immigration policies related to Haiti. Minister Kenney asked to
meet with the Secretary on an annual basis to further the
relationship and ensure coordination and communication on
immigration and visa policy issues, which she agreed would be

Private Sector

12. (SBU) At a May 26 dinner hosted by Canadian-American Business
Council (CABC) Executive Director Maryscott (“Scotty”) Greenwood,
the Secretary had an opportunity to meet with CABC board members
from cross-border Canadian business associations and some Canadian
politicians, including Senator Pamela Wallin and Member of
Parliament Bev Shipley, as well as former Canadian Ambassador to
Washington Michael Kergin. Ambassador Kergin noted his belief that
the “future of cooperation is real transparency in our intelligence
and security agencies.” Janet Lambert, former President of
BIOTECanada, noted that improved security can have economic benefits
for any sector, and common policies between the countries on
security measures would be helpful. She emphasized there does not
need to be a trade-off between security and trade. Ron Covais,
President for the Americas of Lockheed Martin, recommended that DHS
review recommendations made under the North American Competitiveness
Council (NACC), a trilateral private sector council of CEOs from
Canada, Mexico, and the United States, formed several years ago to
advise the leaders of the three countries under the Security and
Prosperity Partnership (SPP). He suggested some of these
recommendations may be worth considering and that the government
should ask the private sector to see how technology can make it

13. (SBU) Shirley Ann George of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce
recommended a joint set of recommendations that the Canadian and
U.S. Chambers of Commerce developed with “practical ideas” for
facilitating trade along the border. Others advised that “language
matters” when speaking to the Canadian public, and suggested that
“sovereign border” was a better phrase from the Canadian perspective
than “real border” and that “convergence” was a better term than
“harmonization” between U.S. and Canadian policies. Senator Wallin
suggested that the current government under PM Harper and in
particular Minister Kenney were more open to discussing issues of
immigration policy between our two nations than was previously the
Qimmigration policy between our two nations than was previously the
case. Dave Leach of Greyhound described the difficulties his
company has with regular bus service at Buffalo; the Secretary asked
for more details to learn whether the issue is occasional or
systemic. (DAS Silver and DAS Kraninger subsequently met with Mr.
Leach and obtained get additional information for follow up.)


14. (SBU) The Secretary and Minister Van Loan, in a public event
on May 26 at the Detroit/Windsor border crossing, signed the
long-awaited “Shiprider” agreement, which will enable integrated
maritime law enforcement operations to deal with cross-border crime.
They also announced an agreement on a framework for the movement of
people and goods across the U.S. Canada border during and following
an emergency.

15. (U) DHS Attach has cleared this message.



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